Spotlight - RBs T.J. Duckett & Warrick Dunn, Atlanta Falcons
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Posted 8/22 by Jason Wood and Michael Brown, Exclusive to Footballguys.com
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Jason Wood's Thoughts
T.J. Duckett and Warrick Dunn are about as different as you can get in terms
of what they bring to the field. Duckett is a bruising (6'0", 254 lbs.)
inside runner who hits the hole and powers through tackles. He's limited as
a receiver, but has proven to be an exemplary goal line option. Warrick Dunn
is one of the smallest RBs in the league (5'9", 180 lbs.) who relies more
on his ability to patiently let holes develop and try to break through and get
to the outside. Unlike Duckett, Dunn is an excellent receiver, dangerous in
the open field, but not particularly suited for pounding the ball or shedding
defenders.
If the Falcons could somehow genetically merge the two backs, you would have
the prototypical franchise runner. However, last time I checked new head coach
Jim Mora wasn't holding a patent on genetic transmogrification and thus, the
Falcons will try to maximize the running game by playing to each runner's strengths.
The good news for Dunn and Duckett owners is that the new coaching staff has
an excellent history with balanced running attacks. Jim Mora, the Falcons new
head coach, brought along his former colleague, Greg Knapp, to serve as offensive
coordinator.
In three seasons as the 49ers OC, Knapp consistently found success by mixing
in Kevan Barlow and Garrison Hearst alongside a mobile quarterback.
Greg Knapp
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Rushing
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Passing
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Year
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Team
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TotPts
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TotYds
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Run%
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Pass%
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Att
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Yds
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YPR
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TDs
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Com
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Atts
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Yds
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YPA
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TDs
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INTs
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2001
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SF
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409
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5,803
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50%
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50%
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509
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2,244
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4.41
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16
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318
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506
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3,559
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7.0
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32
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12
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2002
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SF
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367
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5,820
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46%
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54%
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489
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2,244
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4.59
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16
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354
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571
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3,576
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6.3
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23
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10
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2003
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SF
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384
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5,845
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49%
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51%
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499
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2,279
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4.57
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16
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299
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510
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3,566
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7.0
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25
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15
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Avg
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387
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5,823
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49%
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51%
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499
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2,256
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4.52
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16
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324
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529
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3,567
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6.8
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27
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12
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Note the remarkably consistent production, nearly identical rushing and passing
yardage year in, year out. So while this tells us that Knapp is accustomed to
using more than one runner with great success, we have to remember three VERY
big differences between the situations in San Francisco and Atlanta.
- There are mobile quarterbacks, and then there's Vick - Jeff Garcia
is a very mobile QB, averaging almost 340 yards rushing per 16-game season.
That said, Garcia typically accounted for 15% of his team's rushing production.
Michael Vick takes rushing to an entirely different level; he's as talented
an open field runner as any RB in the league. Per 16-game season, Vick averages
760 yards rushing; which is more than one third of his team's optimum output.
In other words, remember that Duckett and Dunn will have a smaller rushing
pie to carve out production from than Hearst and Barlow did.
- Duckett and Dunn aren't Barlow and Hearst - Remember when I mentioned
that Duckett and Dunn possessed quite divergent skill sets? Such was not the
case in San Francisco. Yes, Garrison Hearst was a better blocker but both
he and Barlow were well rounded all-purpose backs, able to take a run inside
or out, take a pounding, and catch passes out of the backfield. That enabled
the SF coaching staff to be creative in their play calling. Regardless of
whether Barlow or Hearst was in the formation, opposing defenses had no clue
which play would be called. That's not the case in Atlanta; where defenses
can be fairly certain that if Duckett is in the backfield, the team isn't
going to throw him the ball, whereas Dunn isn't likely to plow up the middle
of the line on a draw. Predictability equates to lessened production more
often than not.
- The passing game won't be as prolific - The 49ers averaged almost
3,600 yards passing and 27 touchdowns during Knapp's play calling tenure.
Whether Vick progresses this year or not, it's unreasonable to expect him
to take such a Herculean leap forward in 2004. That means two things. One,
the team probably will run more frequently than they did in San Francisco.
Two, defenses are more apt to play the run and keep an extra defender in the
box.
Positives for Duckett
- Duckett is one of the better goal line backs in the NFL, converting more
than 50% of his opportunities
- Duckett is young, and better equipped physically to take the pounding of
a 15-20 carry workload
- The Falcons should rely heavily on the running game, and Dunn's injury history
could open the door for Duckett to be the main workhorse
Negatives for Duckett
- Despite his size, Duckett has succumbed to myriad injuries in his career
- Duckett is a woeful receiver
- Duckett has to split carries with both Dunn AND Vick
Positives for Dunn
- Dunn has the more proven track record, having been a 1,000 yard rusher
- Dunn is healthy and in camp; the coaching staff has raved about his pass
catching ability being perfect for the West Coast offense
- Dunn is very undervalued in points per reception leagues according to average
draft results
Negatives for Dunn
- Dunn's size has led to a fair amount of time lost to injury, he's not equipped
to take a full time pounding
- Dunn isn't likely to be a major factor in the red zone, Duckett is the better
goal line back and so is Vick for that matter
- Dunn has to split time with both Duckett AND Vick
Final Thoughts
T.J. Duckett and Warrick Dunn, if healthy, will be used regularly this year.
The problem as I see it is that you're never going to know when either is going
to have a big game. There will be weeks where Duckett may score 3 times in short,
while others where he's a non factor. On the same token, Dunn will likely amass
a ton of receptions and be used heavily between the 20s; but his lack of scoring
opportunities could lead to some barren fantasy weeks. If I were to choose one
of the two, it would be Duckett in traditional leagues, as I see him getting
the majority of the goal line opportunities. In leagues that reward points per
reception, Dunn would be the more valuable choice.
Michael Brown's Thoughts
Both T.J. Duckett and Warrick Dunn enjoyed stints as the feature back in Atlanta
for portions of last season, with varying degrees of success.
Dunn took the majority of the carries the first three weeks, but didn't exactly
light up the score sheet (35 carries, 110 yards, 0 TD). The following week saw
Duckett roll up 100 yards on 14 carries against Carolina, which saw the beginning
of his run as the main back on the team. Like Dunn, Duckett didn't exactly seize
his opportunity, totaling 316 yards and 1 touchdown during that stretch of games.
In Week 10, it was back to Dunn. He responded with back-to-back HUGE games,
going over 160 yards in each contest. Even the following week, when he carried
just 14 times for 14 yards, he still managed 129 yards on receptions. Dunn had
seemingly assumed control of the rushing attack, though Duckett hadn't disappeared
completely. Despite totaling just 15 carries over those three games, Duckett
still managed to pop in 4 touchdowns. When it was discovered that Dunn was injured
and wouldn't be returning, Duckett had the job all to himself. Finally, he was
able to take advantage of his opportunity. Duckett finished with 353 yards and
four touchdowns over the last five games of the season, which projects out to
a 1,130 yard, 13-touchdown pace over a full 16-game schedule.
Coming into this season, Dunn is still a major question mark because of the
injury. He was very limited during spring minicamp, and wasn't expected to go
full-bore until training camp is in full swing. For a player who relies so much
on quickness and cutting ability, torn ligaments in his foot could prove devastating.
As of late June, he was still feeling "dull pain" when pushing off
with the surgically repaired foot. ANY player in the NFL that is coming off
surgery is a major risk; when you factor in Dunn's position and how much stress,
wear, and tear will be placed on the foot, it becomes an even bigger issue.
In addition, coupled with Dunn's small physique, the risk for new injury or
re-injury is even greater.
Duckett isn't without question marks of his own. Despite early reports from
minicamp in May that Duckett was in great shape, word surfaced recently that
he was a little heavier than the Falcons would like him to be. It apparently
wasn't an inordinate amount of weight that he needs to lose, but anytime weight
issues surface with a guy who has had problems with that in the past; it has
to raise some sort of caution. Factor in Duckett's plantar fasciitis (a very
painful foot condition), which certainly isn't helped by weighing 250+ pounds,
and you have the makings of some big questions for him as well.
It's not all negative surrounding the Falcons' running backs in 2004, however.
The return of a healthy Michael Vick should revitalize and re-energize the entire
organization. Remember, the Falcons were a sleeper Super Bowl pick by some prior
to last season, and Vick offered a glimpse of what could have been by going
3-1 over his four late starts. What does Vick have to do with the backs? Plenty!
Better QB play = less pressure and defensive focus on the backs. Less pressure
and focus on the backs = more sustained drives and the offense stays on the
field longer. More sustained drives = an ability to stay in the game later,
rather than resorting to airing it out and playing catch-up. It's no coincidence
that in Atlanta's wins and close games (there were 9 of them), the Duckett/Dunn
combo fared much better than when the team was beaten soundly.
In 9 close games
- Attempts: 214
- Yards: 942
- Touchdowns: 11
In 7 blowout games (blowout defined as a loss by more than 7 points)
- Attempts: 108
- Yards: 509
- Touchdowns: 3
If one believes that the return of Michael Vick significantly improves the
Falcons, then one should also believe that the Falcons running backs stand to
benefit tremendously. So the next question to ask is
this: Which of these running backs will benefit you, the fantasy leaguer, the
most?
Taking a look at last year's yardage totals gives a glimpse of how their respective
seasons went on the whole. What we need to do is get to the nuts and bolts of
their stat lines.
A lot of people get seduced into thinking that yardage is king and that touchdowns
are fluky from year to year. And sometimes, this is the case. But while the
actual scoring of a touchdown may be somewhat of a fluke at times, the opportunities
that a player gets to score touchdowns is most certainly a byproduct of game
plan, and NOT chance occurrence. Some may point to the overall season numbers
for each player and determine that Dunn's per game yardage totals and per carry
rushing average exceeded those of Duckett, and that the touchdowns will be more
evenly distributed this year. Based on each player's red zone and goal line
success rates, however, we can paint a different picture. Consider:
- Duckett had 39 red zone attempts in 2003. For a frame of reference, Deuce
McAllister had 35. Duckett converted 11 of those red zone rushing attempts
into touchdowns. The 11 red zone TDs ranked as the third highest total in
the entire NFL, trailing only Priest Holmes and Shaun Alexander. When you
consider that Duckett was the only back in the top 13 in red zone scores that
did NOT have at least 40 red zone carries, you can see that when his number
was called, he made the most of it.
- Dunn had 16 red zone carries, scoring once.
On the flip side:
- Duckett had 11 goal line carries, and scored on 6 of them.
- Dunn had 5 goal line carries and scored once.
When factoring in the touchdown opportunities, one can see that Duckett
is clearly the scoring option on this team. As stated earlier, even during Dunn's
impressive mid-season run, he only scored once on the ground during that time
while Duckett scored four times.
It is clear that neither can be confused with an elite fantasy option just
yet, though there is an important factor to consider. Warrick Dunn has never
been able to consistently hold down a starting job in the NFL. Even during his
best years in Tampa, he was sharing carries with Mike Alstott. Now that he's
29 and coming off a major injury, it's fairly safe to say that this will not
be the first 300-carry season of his career. Despite the fact that Dunn is still
listed as the starter, it's difficult to imagine that he'll keep Duckett down
all year. Even if he makes it through the year without injury, you know what
you're getting from him for the most part. Two or three big games last year
should not cause you to disregard what he did the previous seven seasons. He
is not a feature back, and likely never will be. Duckett, on the other hand,
COULD be an every-down back at least. The Falcons invested a high draft pick
in Duckett two years ago, and it would stand to reason that they want to begin
seeing big returns on that investment. While it seems quite likely that Dunn
will at least earn a third-down role, there are no guarantees he'll come back
healthy. Should that be the case, Duckett would be a full-fledged starting back.
The fact that Duckett's upside is significantly higher than Dunn's should account
for Duckett having much higher value coming into this season.
That isn't to say that Warrick Dunn is without value. Of course all players
have value at some point in a draft, and injuries can hit any player at any
time, regardless of his injury history. Should Duckett succumb to an injury
at some point, Dunn's value could likewise skyrocket (assuming full health for
him as well). And even if Duckett stays healthy and does keep the job, Dunn
will not be shut out of the offense. All of this is assuming full health of
course, but Dunn is an excellent change-of-pace type back and is one of the
best receiving running backs in the NFL. He's averaged over 400 yards through
the air per year throughout his career, and there's no reason to think he couldn't
reach that level again if he can stay on the field. Duckett, meanwhile, is almost
never thrown the ball. The Falcons threw a grand total of 15 passes Duckett's
way in 2003, so if Atlanta is ever in a passing down, you can be fairly certain
that Duckett isn't going to be getting the call. Since receiving by a running
back is a big factor to consider, that is a huge chunk of production that Duckett
is missing out on.
Final Thoughts
Most likely, neither back will produce enough to warrant stud status. Between
Duckett's inexperience and inability to catch the football, and Dunn's return
from injury, it can be assumed that each will have productive games and each
will turn in the occasional stinker. A danger with using a guy like Duckett
as an every-week starter is that he will catch almost NO passes. Unlike guys
such as Tiki Barber and Charlie Garner (who can still catch passes and contribute
in that way), on the occasion when Duckett can't get it going on the ground,
he may not see the field at all. That's a killer when one of your starting runners
throws up the equivalent of a goose egg. So it is a danger to rely on Duckett
as an every-week starter. He's probably just on the outside of starting backs,
making a very solid #3 with the potential to be a #2. But when you can land
a potential #2 back with the 57th pick of your draft that seems to be excellent
value to me. Dunn should be looked upon as a wild card, a guy to take a chance
on but one to be wary of not overvaluing just because he had good stats in a
few games last season. His average draft position at #78 overall is a little
rich for my blood considering where his upside lies.
Quotations from the Message Board Thread
To view the entire Player Spotlight thread (there's a ton of fantastic commentary
in there), click here.
TheDirtyWord:
"The hope in Atlanta is for Greg Knapp to find a more consistent rotation
for both Dunn & Duckett to excel in...The problem might be exercising patience
with the duo. Over the seasons first 3 games Dunn rushed the ball 35 times for
110 yards, which prompted Reeves to shift the majority of the ball carrying
load to Duckett. but had Reeves stuck with Dunn, Dunn may have exploded earlier
in the season like he did against NYG & NO to the tune of 340 rushing yards.
Yet Duckett didn't perform badly when he got the chance to be the primary ball
carrier. Thus is the dilemma that is the Falcon running game (outside of Vick)."
KKrew:
"I have guarded optimism for 2004. As has been documented, both Dunn
& Duckett have foot issues. Both may be limited somewhat. Duckett's 11 TDs
in 2003 was a pleasant surprise for me. His 4 ypc, albeit pedestrian, was comforting
in that he was able to at least get to respectability - a slight uptick from
3.9 ypc in 2002."
Spartans Rule:
"I've followed T.J. Duckett's career closer than that of any other player
in the NFL. I watched him in high school, where he played for one of my school's
conference rivals. I watched nearly all of his games at Michigan State. And
I've seen a few of his games with Falcons. So I feel fairly confident in my
assessment of him.
T.J. Duckett is not a natural running back. He's a natural linebacker. Had
he gone to Michigan or Ohio State or one of the other national powers who offered
him as a LB, he would probably be a hot topic in the IDP forums right now, drawing
comparisons to Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher. But Duckett chose Michigan State,
which gave him a chance to play on offense. While Duckett does have incredible
power and good breakaway speed, he doesn't seem to have the vision and instincts
that most great RBs possess."
Loco Barlow:
"Both Dunn/Duckett have foot problems that don't easily go away. Don't
look now, but Quincy Wilson continues to get lots of reps in minicamps that
could carry into training camp. I'm of the opinion that at some point next year,
Quincy Wilson will get some playing time and impress in the new run-blocking
scheme."
T.J. Duckett Projections
Source |
Rush
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Yards
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TDs
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Rec
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Yards
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TDs
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FntPts
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Jason Wood |
225
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925
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8
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15
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105
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0
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151
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Michael Brown |
240
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950
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10
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12
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72
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0
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162
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Message Board Consensus |
189
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824
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9
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22
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103
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0
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147
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Warrick Dunn Projections
Source |
Rush
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Yards
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TDs
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Rec
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Yards
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TDs
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FntPts
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Jason Wood |
140
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615
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4
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45
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417
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2
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139
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Michael Brown |
120
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530
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2
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45
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380
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2
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115
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Message Board Consensus |
175
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780
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3
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46
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379
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2
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146
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