Friday,
June 28th / 2002
RB Thomas
Jones, Arizona Cardinals
Height:
5-10
Weight: 211
Born: August 19, 1978, Big Stone
Gap, VA
College: Virginia
Career
Statistics:
YEAR |
TEAM |
G |
GS |
ATT |
YDS |
AVG |
LNG |
TD |
REC |
YDS |
AVG |
LNG |
TD |
2000 |
ARI |
14 |
4 |
112 |
373 |
3.3 |
29 |
2 |
32 |
208 |
6.5 |
20 |
0 |
2001 |
ARI |
16 |
2 |
112 |
380 |
3.4 |
21 |
5 |
21 |
151 |
7.2 |
18 |
0 |
Total |
30 |
6 |
224 |
753 |
3.4 |
29 |
7 |
53 |
359 |
6.8 |
20 |
0 |
Chris Smith’s Thoughts:
Thomas Jones was an early first round
pick that many believed could come in and immediately run for a lot of
yardage in the NFL. However the reality was that his study and
work habits were not worthy of a professional quarterback and he feel
behind in his development. Last season he spent a majority of the
time playing behind Michael Pittman. However, Jones did have his
moments including 6 touchdowns.
Often this season,
I have seen Michael Pittman being heralded as the next great thing in
Tampa Bay. He has been called the "Priest Holmes" of
2002. This may or may not occur (Pittman will be featured as a
P.O.D. soon) but comparing both of their numbers last season while
in Arizona does show how similar their production really
was. To me, the big three numbers to look at when comparing
running backs on one team is the yards per carry, the total touchdowns
scored and the receiving totals. In addition to that, how durable
a player is does come into play. Last season, neither player had a
good YPC with Pittman stuck at 3.5 and Jones at a disappointing but
similar 3.4. In addition both players scored 5 touchdowns which is
impressive for Jones when you consider he touched the ball half as much
as Pittman. Before you scoff at the poor numbers though you need
to take into consideration that the offensive line was young and had not
played together for very long. An inexperienced line in the
NFL usually does end up having difficulties when it comes to running the
football. The huge offensive line featuring 355 pound Anthony
Clement in his 4th season and Leonard Davis, the behemoth 2nd year guard
from Texas will be many times better this season and will open huge
holes in the running game. They are too big and strong for the
opposing defensive lineman.
This past off-season has brought a
different Jones to the table. He has been to all the meetings,
practices and has been studying the game. His new found confidence
has the coaching staff oozing with confidence during the
mini-camps. He is a quick, powerful runner who will thrive with a
lot of carries as much backs do. One of the huge pluses in
drafting him would be the offensive line which has improved a lot over
the last two seasons. This massive unit will work better as a team
in 2002 and that will likely open up some big holes for him to rush
through. His fantasy numbers will be at least double this year by
season's end. He's that good.
290 carries for 1120 rushing yards and 8
touchdowns
55 receptions for 480 receiving yards and 1 touchdown
1600 total yards and 9 touchdowns for a total of 214.0 fantasy points
5 of the posts
from the P.O.D. Thread in the forum:
(make sure you click on the
link that takes you to the thread. There are many fantastic
thoughts that I wasn't able to fit into this article).
BLINDShaun
Footballguy
Member # 1626
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posted June 27, 2002 03:19 AM
P.O.D. June 26th/2002: RB
Thomas Jones, Cardinals
All of the offensive
powerhouses are in the West are going to force Arizona to play
musical chairs in the open field with the rock coming out of
Plummer's cannon. The backfield situation will be irrelevant in
Arizona in the 2nd half of football games. However the defense
will realize what Arizona needs to do and focus solely on pass
rushing and covering the Arizona wide-outs, meanwhile Arizona will
stay at their game and still feed TJ the ball despite being down
by two touches. With everyone focused on the pass, all Thomas
Jones needs to do is juke or break one tackle and he's good for a
20+ yard run and maybe a touchdown if the opposing D is caught off
guard. The Arizona as an offense is better than last year, last
year doesn't matter to Thomas Jones. Much like a smart car company
does when it's old product is going out of style, they come out
with a new one. Well Thomas Jones realized he wasn't getting the
job done in 2000 and 2001, so he's coming out with the 2002 model.
Thomas Jones deciding to
hit the weight room non-stop this offseason and has put on some
pure muscle. "I really anticipate Thomas having an exciting
season," wide receiver Frank Sanders said. "I hope he
stays healthy, because he has a chance to do what he's been trying
to do -- be a starter. He's bigger, he's more defined. He
definitely put in some hours on the weights." The offensive
line is stronger this season with more experience. Behind them is
a number of guys on their last year of contract including Jake
Plummer, David Boston, Martay Jenkins, and Frank Sanders. The
addition of Freddie Jones should ease the situation and Thomas
Jones should be able to have the most room he's ever had to run in
the NFL. While he won't get the number of carries most people
would expect, he'll still lay down some decent but not spectacular
stats.
RB19 Thomas Jones [ARI]:
1,090 rushing yards, 240 receiving yards, and 7 total touchdowns.
Injury risk: 3 out of 10.
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Alex
Footballguy
Member # 7422
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posted June 26, 2002 11:10
AM
To succeed in the NFL, you
need talent and opportunity. Jones is 1st-round talent, and was
regarded as "the next big thing," by the Cardinals,
and many fantasy footballers, when he was drafted. Several years
later, the Cardinals seem to still see Jones in this light,
evidenced by their decision to let Pittman leave, not to use a
high draft pick on a RB, and not to sign a FA. That leads to the
opportunity, or the next opportunity. It appears that Jones will
not have to outplay anyone for the #1RB job in Arizona this
year-the only way he will lose the job is through injury or
extended failure. This seems to be his make-or-break season. I
am betting on Jones making it, for several reasons. 1st-His
coach has faith in him, enough to basically hand him the
starting job.
Cardinals | Looking At
Their Free Agents - from KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com)
February 10, 2002 18:26:34 PT Kent Somers of the Arizona
Republic reports for the Sporting News the Arizona Cardinals
appear to have set their priorities for re-signing their own
free agents. The top two they want to re-sign are S Kwamie
Lassiter and RT Anthony Clement. They appear poised to let RB
Michael Pittman go if he is given a huge offer from another
team. RB Thomas Jones showed enough improvement late last season
to make coaches more comfortable that he could succeed as the
starting back.
2nd-Jones has added
some muscle to help him take the pounding of a NFL RB.
Cardinals | Jones Bulks
Up - from KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com)
May 13, 2002 16:38:08 PT Mike Jurecki, reporting for
AZCardinals.com, reports Arizona Cardinals RB Thomas Jones, the
team's current No. 1 tailback, has bulked up during the
off-season to become stronger and take the pounding an
every-down back typically sees. He's counting on the chance to
touch the football 18-22 times per game this year.
3rd-Arizona has the WR
threat of David Boston to force D's to respect the passing game,
rather than stack the line to stop the run.
4th-Arizona has a HUGE
offensive line that appeared to play better towards the end of
last year.
5th-Jones' breathing
problems hampered him the last 2 years. He has now been properly
diagnosed (hopefully) and should be able to play at 100%.
6th-Based on Jones'
college stats, he seems to need time to "learn" the
offense. His #s improved every year, with the big jump coming
between year 2 to year 3.
Rushing
Year G Att. Yards Avg. Long TD
1996 11 36 205 5.7 NA 3
1997 11 201 692 3.4 NA 4
1998 11 238 1303 5.5 NA 13
1999 11 334 1,798 5.4 71 16
Totals 44 809 3,998 4.9 NA 36
Receiving
Year G No. Yards Avg. Long TD
1996 11 4 26 6.5 25 0
1997 11 17 127 7.5 37 1
1998 11 28 179 5.4 19 2
1999 11 22 239 10.9 84 1
Totals 44 49 496 10.1 84 4
Finally-Projections
1025 rush yards, 250 receiving yards, 8 rush TDs, 2 rec TDs
Injury risk 4/10
These stats come from
an average of 17 carries/game and 3.7 ypc, with 40 receptions
with a modest yards per catch of 6.5 yards. There is the
potential for much more. IMO this makes Jones a solid #2, with
the upside of being more. If you can get him in the 5th round or
later, I think he is a good bargain.
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mad
bomber
Footballguy
Member # 445
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posted June 27, 2002 04:41
AM
Opportunity is knocking
and Thomas Jones is ready to answer.
The departure of
Michael Pittman to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers opened a whole new
possibility for Jones. Some have stated that Jones is not
talented enough to blossom into a starting runningback, citing
that he was unable to beat out Pittman in the two years that
they played together. The fact of the matter is - Jones was
not given a chance to beat Pittman out. Jones gave way to
Pittman after only four games his rookie year. In his first
two seasons in the NFL, Jones’ most carries per game was 23
(the second game of his rookie season), and the only time he
has carried the ball more than 20 times in his career. Through
two seasons he has averaged only 8 carries a game. Hardly
enough to get into any kind of groove.
Past health problems
had an effect on his performance as well. Jones had been
bothered by shortness of breath in his first two seasons which
often sent him to the sidelines during games. During the
offseason it was discovered that three ribs were pressing on a
nerve in his chest. The problem has been remedied.
Another knock on
Jones when he was drafted was his size. No one questioned his
quickness, but he didn’t really have the size to break too
many tackles at the NFL level. The critics were correct in
that criticism, as he often had trouble getting past the first
tackler. So, Jones committed himself to improving physically
for the 2002 season. Through intensive workouts he has added
extra weight (10 to 15 lbs.) without sacrificing his speed.
Now Jones is bigger,
healthier, and has a coaching staff that has confidence in
him. He will be an every down back for the Cardinals and will
even be used at the goal line. The Cardinals have a solid
offensive line for Jones to run behind. Expectations are that
he will carry the ball 20-25 times a game. His increased size
will help to improve his YPC.
Projections: 1200
Rushing – 350 Receiving – 10 TDs
Injury Risk: 3/10
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Gravedigger
Footballguy
Member # 590
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posted June 26, 2002 05:20
PM
The arguements for:
He's the only option. So what? He was the only option his
first year and blew so badly they "discovered"
Pittman. Add his poor YPC and the fact that AZ will NEVER be
ahead with that schedual and this means nothing. AZ has had
"only options" before and not one has come
through. Don't know why this is an argument for, there is no
evidence for it.
Next: He has talent
(this comment often cited by his high draft choice). Against
the wimp teams he's racked up a 3.4 YPC, I shudder to think
what he'll do against StL, SF, SEA, KC, OAK, SD, and the
like. College talent does not convert so I guess I don't buy
the talent arguement until I see NFL talent. Jones hasn't
shown.
Lastly, he's
poised. With some experience now, getting over injury, and
some confidence about "liking him well enough to let
Pittman go" (which really means: "too cheap to pay
more than the league minimum for most players") he
should perform. I have not seen him getting better through
the years so experience doesn't cut it for me. The fact that
he sits out with injuries at all is more worrisome than the
idea that he's over them. And I've had to watch AZ (live in
PHX) for 7 years now and I have to agree that reading
"confidence" in releasing Pittman is most likely
an error. Not to mention the fact that Jones Does have
confidence problems. His rookie year he complained about the
pressure and how he didn't feel comfortable as the #1 RB.
That said, I'll
obviously join the nay-sayers and lowball Mr. Jones.
6-7 total TD's and
about 800 combined yards (largely because I don't expect him
to play all the time either via injury or simply getting
yanked). Perhaps pessimistic but for a guy like Jones, I'd
much rather err on the low side so I don't even flirt with
putting him on my team.
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Ministry
of Pain
Footballguy
Member # 1408
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posted June 26, 2002 09:29
PM
I went all the way
back to 1988 when the Cardinals headed west for Phoenix
and it's horrifying. I will let you guys take the time to
crunch the stats but what the majority of you are
proposing is so far out in left field it's sickening. I
guess that would make Jones a sleeper EXCEPT a lot of
people are thinking big things for this guy.
No RB has gotten
300+ carries in the desert. Hardly any season has there
been a top20 RB out of the Cardinals. There are a lot of
reasons for this but I think wasting a 5th or 6th round
pick on a RB3 at best is a waste. Especially when the 5th
and 6th round should be loaded with potential top10 and
top15 WR as well as some solid QBs.
There are some
very credible people(Chris Smith) who like Jones chances.
I cannot believe Chase manhattan and I are going to agree
on this but I am not going anywhere near Jones before
maybe the 10th round. That might be good value here. Maybe
not even at that round.
Did the Cardinals
defense suddenly get good? Are the Birds going to be close
in the games against the Niners, Seahawks, and Rams? I
think NOT! People need to figure out how to get their
hands on David Boston because the Cardinals are going to
play Ketchup. OL is better but TJ is not the answer.
Prediction: 200 car, 700yds, 4 TD, 40 rec, 300 yds, 1TD
=130 pts.
Those are not
starter numbers. It will be a nothing short of a miracle
if this guy has 300 carries for 1200yds and 10 rush TD.
Just not gonna happen.
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Projections:
Player
Name
|
Team
|
Rush Yards
|
Rec. Yards
|
Total Yards
|
TD
|
Fant.
Pts.
|
Thomas
Jones
|
Ari.
|
925
|
280
|
1205
|
8
|
168.5
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Chris
Smith's projections
Player
Name
|
Team
|
Rush Yards
|
Rec.
Yards
|
Total Yards
|
TD
|
Fant.
Pts.
|
Thomas
Jones
|
Ari.
|
1120
|
480
|
1600
|
9
|
214.0
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